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Garmin Forerunner 165: the downsides first

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$$Sports watchiPhone and AndroidScore 3.6/5
5%
of Amazon ratings are 1–2 stars
(checked 2026-10-10)

A budget Garmin running watch with an AMOLED screen and GPS and heart-rate accuracy that Android Central found as good as pricier Forerunners, plus about 11 days of battery. It holds back Training Load and Training Status, music costs extra, and it's a fitness watch first, not a full smartwatch.

Top complaints

  • Key training features held back

    Android Central lists the missing Training Load and Training Status as a con, saying Garmin reserves them, along with Training Readiness and multisport profiles, for the pricier Forerunner 265.

  • Confusing at first and fiddly pairing

    Amazon's summary calls the interface mixed, with some owners saying it isn't intuitive. Low-star Walmart reviews say it has too many buttons to figure out, Bluetooth pairing isn't user-friendly, and it came without instructions. Android Central says the button layout has a learning curve.

  • Plain plastic build, limited smarts, extra costs

    Android Central dislikes the plastic, button-heavy look and the glass, which isn't Gorilla Glass. It says the watch feels substandard next to full smartwatches, and music storage and Wi-Fi cost extra. A Walmart reviewer complains about needing an adapter to charge.

What owners love

Good for
  • Runners who want Garmin coaching on a budget
  • Accurate GPS distance and pace
  • Over a week between charges

Scores (tap for why)

  • Battery life4.0
    Why 4.0?11 days rated, 19 h GPS, 17 h all-systems GNSS. Android Central calls the GNSS figure on the low side for a Garmin.
  • Fitness tracking4.5
    Why 4.5?GPS and heart-rate accuracy on a par with pricier Forerunners, but no Training Load or Status (Android Central).
  • Smart features2.5
    Why 2.5?Notifications and Garmin Pay, but no app ecosystem like full smartwatches, and music only on the Music edition (Android Central).
  • Comfort4.0
    Why 4.0?Light (39 g) and thin, with a secure, breathable band (Android Central). Some Walmart owners find it hard to use.
  • Durability3.0
    Why 3.0?Polymer case, 5 ATM, chemically strengthened glass that isn't as scratch-proof as Gorilla Glass, and no MIL-STD rating (Android Central).

What experts say

  • Android Central: 'Barely a compromise': proven GPS and heart-rate accuracy. The cons are paying extra for music and Wi-Fi, no Training Load or Status, and a big-bezel display without Gorilla Glass.
  • Wirecutter (NYT): Not a current pick (Coros Pace 4 and Forerunner 70 are). It's listed as the way to spend less on a touchscreen Garmin, at about $200, with a barometric altimeter.
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